Sunday, March 2, 2008

Who influences your "voice"?

[The following was inspired by a recent comment thread on this blog.]

Here's a question for all you bloggers and anyone else who likes to write. Who has been the biggest influence on your writing "voice"? We all aim to have our own voice in our writing, but ultimately if we are observant and honest enough we will see bits and pieces of writers we admire in there. It isn't intentional plagiarism or stylistic robbery - it is simply that we love those authors so much that they changed what we think of as a well-crafted sentence or good turn of phrase. They added words to our vocabulary that we cannot use without thinking of them. They gave us our sense of humor or passion for what's right or eye for beauty. The rhythm of their phrasings are as natural as songs we know by heart. It isn't that we want to write like them so much as we are them, or they us, in that they are in our heads, part of our experience.

Following is my list in very roughly descending order of current influence, at least from what I can consciously tell. There are others in the stew as well but these are the ones I think of when I notice how I am writing (which is rarely). One will note a heavy leaning toward "humorists" (more accurately "absurdists", those that find humor in absurdity), which is fine - we all need to laugh more.

  • Peter Tauber - from one book only, his Sunshine Soldiers, which I have probably read 20 times now since my early teens.
  • Hunter S. Thompson - I stopped reading his work in the 1980s because frankly the quality went down and he became a caricature of himself. But man, before that, he was probably the greatest wordsmith alive in my lifetime. I was reading HST at age 15 - ruined for life!
  • Aaron - one of my bestest friends on the whole planet and a long-time member of my email salon, where he plays the role of my alter ego and posts as much or more than I do (which is saying a lot). He's also the funniest person I know personally. If I (consciously or un) rip off anyone's written mannerisms, it is Aaron's. But we've been reflecting back and forth at each other via writing for ten years now, so untangling that web of influences would be hard. Aaron doesn't write much for public consumption - he should change that.
  • P.J. O'Rourke - all those years at National Lampoon means he has his satire chops down, but that would fall flat over time if he wasn't so smart, too. Even when you disagree with him he has you laughing.
  • Mark Twain - 'nuff said.
  • Joseph Heller - I've only read Catch-22 (over and over). That's enough.
  • Garrison Keillor - we're big Prairie Home Companion fans here, and I love to listen to Garrison tell stories. But really, his writing is exquisitely crafted and just as worth the investment of time as listening to PHC. Not every good talker can be a good writer or vice versa, but Keillor is both.
  • H.W. Tilman - little-known British mountaineer and explorer. Hysterical in a very dry triple-negative-statements-that-explode-into-sly-jokes English sort of way. There are places on the maps of Africa and the Himalayas and Greenland that he helped fill in, plus he was a behind-enemy-lines commando helping partisans during WWII, so he's always an interesting read as well. Surprisingly many explorers and mountain climbers write well; Tilman is simply the best of the bunch.
  • Kurt Vonnegut - I don't read him any more, but there was a time in my formative years when I devoured everything of his. If he wrote it before 1980, I have read it.

So, who influenced your writing voice?

9 comments:

Aaron, Just Aaron said...

As you encouraged another commenter to do in another thread, I have responded to your question through a post on my own blog:

Who Influences Your Voice?

I talk a bit about how and why I write, and list my influences in no particular order.

Chaotic Hammer said...

This is a great question, but I can't seem to think of any good answers. It's been several years or more since I've read most of the classic writers you cite. Most of the last several years I've read a lot of stuff like church history, theology, and apologetics, by a lot of different writers.

I feel like I write a lot in the style of my own speaking, or my own internal dialog. I'm probably influenced more by bloggers and on-line writers than by any books I've read lately.

Weird. Now I'm thinking lots of self-conscious thoughts about my writing voice, and wondering why I'm so much different than others, who have their cool lists of sophisticated professional writers and poets and such. Hmmm.

Jim said...

Aaron,

Thanks. I really liked your point about how musicians and movies can affect it, too - I had wanted to include those but then decided not to. Don't know why - maybe it would've made the list too long.

CH,

Turn it around a bit. Who, when you are reading them, causes you to exclaim, "That was a REALLY well-crafted sentence!"? Whose writing makes you laugh out loud? Which musical artists do you love and can sing their songs by heart? What movies can you quote vast tracts of dialog from? The answers to those questions are probably as much an indicator of influences on your voice as anything.

Chaotic Hammer said...

What movies can you quote vast tracts of dialog from?

Did you do that on purpose? The way you phrased this question immediately made me think of Monty Python and the Holy Grail, which ironically enough, would be the answer to the question you asked.

So I get what you're asking here, and I have a question for you: Do you think we can influence our own "voices of influence" by deliberately setting out to absorb certain types of new information, and leaving behind other types? For example, you mentioned that you don't watch TV, and I would agree that this is a pretty healthy decision, on many levels. But I'm wondering if I could undertake a deliberate, disciplined attempt to consume certain kinds of information (say, lots of C.S. Lewis and Charles Spurgeon) in a deliberate attempt to add a healthy and helpful component to my "voice".

Maybe this seems like a weird question. But I guess that now that you've got me thinking about this, I've become concerned that I've been on a bit of a junk-food diet intellectually for quite a while. The exceptions would be my Bible reading, my reading about church history and theology, and my blog-reading (which I have actually found to be surprisingly healthy and stimulating).

Jim said...

Of course I did that on purpose. It was in my mind when I wrote it.

I almost added "the Bible" when I wrote, because I would say it has influenced my voice (especially word and phrase choices). Funnily enough, I don't read the KJV (much), but I like its language, most of which was actually appropriated from Tyndale's earlier translation.

And yes, I think everything you put in your head has an impact on you, and becomes a part of who you are, positively or negatively. That's one of the reasons I am more careful to filter what goes in my head now days. That isn't to say I don't watch "bad" films - "Pulp Fiction" and "Snatch" being two particular faves, for example (so add Tarentino and Ritchie to my "voice" influences), it just means I let things in one-by-one, and feel no compunction to keep watching something if I decide it is doing my psyche or brain harm. That's what the off switch is for.

There's a famous acronym popular in programming - GIGO, "Garbage In, Garbage Out". I think that applies to our heads most of all.

Chaotic Hammer said...

I've always heard the GIGO thing, and often repeated it myself when talking to others. But I usually tend to think of it in terms of watching a lot of violent, immoral, sexually charged, or profanity-laced stuff and then having temptation problems or moral struggles. You know, it's like the old "I can't figure out why I'm having lust problems," we hear from the guy who spends all his free time looking at porn.

I must admit that I'm intrigued by the idea that if I want to develop my "voice" as a writer, I should be reading and listening to "voices" that accurately reflect what I would consider healthy and beneficial input.

It makes sense. A lot of sense.

Jim said...

CH,

Actually, I think you should also be listening to whatever you ENJOY. Not at a brain-dead escape-from-the-day way, not even because the content is edifying, but in a way that makes you happy you just read it.

I mean, if I were to only read stuff by God-fearing people I'd have to purge my library of Mark Twain, something I refuse to do.

Aaron, Just Aaron said...

CH: "wondering why I'm so much different than others, who have their cool lists of sophisticated professional writers and poets and such."

Hmmm. Sophisticated? For me and my list, nah. Just stuff and writers that have something that I identify with.

That turned into an overly long post. And there are certainly more writers that influence me. If I had to cut it down to one paragraph (and Twain and Orwell both shout "Why didn't you?") I would say Douglas Adams. Although "identify with" might be more accurate than "influenced by," since I've written in a word-playish style since long before I ever read Adams.

I think Jim's right, reading a lot probably improves your writing.

And CH's strategy to read people whose points of view you admire and would like to be influenced by is a great idea. In many realms of life we're advised to associate as much as possible with people we want to be like, or at least that we admire, and to not associate with people we'd rather not be like. It's probably the same with reading.

But Jim makes a good point, the best reading is reading that you enjoy. Or, if "enjoy" sounds too hedonistic and lazy, then read what "satisfies" you. Satisfy might mean laugh, or enlighten, or any other positive result. I am often satisfied by Elmore Leonard's crime novels, his older western novels, Jim's blog and the blogs connected with it, and technical books.

As for your identification of Monty Python movies, I think MP has a lot of moral lessons that anyone can profit from, which almost all boil down to "no one should be taken too seriously, because we're all fundamentally silly."

"Right!"

Jim said...

So, I think ultimately a summary of the influences of my writing voice would be to look at my profile here on Blogger (books, movies AND music) plus my books over at GoodReads. And then much, much more than that.

Culture is that water in which we fish swim. We can't see it, but it defines us.